only during the day while we're at work? (We would prefer to let her sleep outside of her crate/and maybe in our bed at night b/c she's already sleeping most of the night all the way through in our bed now with minimal to no accidents--and I know that some people disagree with letting their dogs sleep with them--but she's a permanent addition to our family, and we enjoy having her snuggle up with us) Our schedule would be like this.
- 4:00 AM (Husband wakes up for work)- 4:15 AM Potty Break
- 5:15 AM Feed
- 6:45 - 7:00 AM Potty Break
- 7:15 AM Departure (put in crate)
- 5:00 - 5:15 PM (out of crate immediatley) Potty Break
- 6:15 PM Feed
- 7:15 - 7:30 PM Potty Break
Let her eat and drink in moderation until
- 9:30 - 9:45 PM Last Potty Break - Pick up feed/water bowls to keep accidents from happening during the night !
Same routine in the morning.
We have a designated area fenced off right outside our back door. We want her to only go through that door -- and maybe get used to using a bell (as we've heard that they do work).
Does anybody see where this would not be effective or work ? We want her to be well house trained, and eventually never use a crate. Any advice suggestions ?
You do not mention the dogs age. If it is a puppy this schedule you have will end up with you/husband cleaning out the cage daily. What worked for me was (yes I lost so much sleep) was sleep on my couch in the living room with my pup and take him out every 1-2 hours. Now he lets us know when he has to go out.
That is 10 hours, of a baby being placed in a crate. I don't see anywhere on your schedule, for you allowing her to go on a walk, or play time for the puppy.
Also, I know gas prices are kinda out there and everyone's feeling a strain, but is it possible for you (or husband/wife) to drive home during your lunch break to take the puppy out? A puppy can't hold it for 10 straight hours and there is going to be quite a mess to clean up when you get home. Just an option :)
And one more note - please let the puppy drink as much water as they want during the day and night. I know it'll cause more "messes", but it's better than always having a dehydrated puppy or dog on your hands.
Other than that, I don't see why it shouldn't work. Good luck with your baby :)
have you thought about a pet sitter to help with the training, somrthing i was told for my pups is to not leave the food dish availble 24/7 feed them at feeding time and wait 15 min and take the food away even if the havent finished, with that you can pretty much control the out put and now when to put the pup out to do its business
Here's a few mods I'd make to your schedule, if possible:
1. take her out 0-30 minutes after she eats, eating can make dogs need to go
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2. try scheduled feeding instead of free feeding, if she hasn't finished in 20 minutes, pick the food up
3. pick the water up earlier
Remember that dogs thrive on routine, so the closer you can keep the schedule to this on the weekends, the less your dog will pester you to get up, eat, or go out. If you want to crate during the day but not at night, I don't see a problem with that. I did that with Westley for a while until we could phase out the crate.
yes it's possible to do exactly what you've listed above, however, a dog should only be crated 3 hours maximum during the day you've got her crated for 10 hours which is cruel. You didn't say how old your dog is, a puppy will have multiple accidents in 10 hours and you'll have one hell of a mess to come home to, also I don't see anywhere in there you've scheduled a walk or park time?
You are picking up the food and water bowls wayyy too late. She should eat no later than 5 pm and water should be picked up around 7 pm, then several potty breaks between 7 pm and 10pm and at least one time during the night. If she's under 6 months of age then she won't be able to hold it during the night.
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Rethink her being in the crate for 10 hours, either arrange to come home during the day or arrange for someone to come and let her out and walk her so she gets a break or look into day cares. She will become so frustrated in the crate for that long you'll find that she'll either destroy all her teeth trying to chew her way out or will injure herself trying to escape, I've seen this happen to dogs crated for long periods of time.
Both of our dogs are crate trained.
However, to leave her in the crate from 7:15am-5pm is simply too much. Her bladder cannot handle that, and the poor dog will definitely not be happy left alone in a box for that long. Our dogs stay in maximum six hours, and that's rarely. Usually it's only three.
You'd be better off leaving her out at home. Start doing that. Leave her in an area in the house, with others fenced off (we use metal/wire shelving to make small, movable fences in our house, but baby gates work too). Make sure she has water and a lot of toys. As she gets used to this setup while you're gone, and hopefully does not destroy anything, start removing barriers until she can go around most of the house. Get a doggie door for the back. You can train her to come inside when you ring the bell, or to signal that she wants to be let out by ringing a bell. A dog trainer or internet sites can help with that.
Also, as a side note, dogs RARELY eat "in moderation". They scarf down any food they are presented with. So best to just schedule dinner for 6:15 and leave it at that. Let her drink, yeah, but feed her cheerioes as treats instead of leaving food out. Or, even better, get her one of these. It is the best dog toy ever created. xD Kongs work too, but this is best.
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Exercise is vital to a young dog you are crate training. When it is out during the evenings don't let it sleep, play with it and exercise it...that will help it sleep at night. I would also move feeding time to evenings. That way the dog has time to digest the food and water longer before bed time. When you crate leave no food or water. If you get enough exercise the dog will sleep when crated. I crate my adult dogs and they go out in the morning and then again when I get home. Its a total of about 8 hours. Once they got used to it it became a very easy routine. I do feed them as soon as I get home so they eat and play all evening. Consistency and exercise are so very important. If you maintain those..you will be fine. Good luck.
How old is the dog? If it's a puppy, leaving it at home unattended in a crate for 10 hours a day is NOT a good idea. Puppies that are isolated that much when they're young usually grow up afraid of everything or very aggressive (because they never learned during their formative years how to cope with anything but a crate.)
Any dog left alone that long would also run the risk of fouling the crate and overriding the instinct to keep it clean -- which would defeat the purpose of using the crate -- because the dog can't hold its bowels or bladder for that long.
Do you have a friend or neighbor who could check on your dog throughout the day so it isn't confined for so long? Is there a doggie daycare in your area that could give your dog the attention and affection it will crave during the day?
The only problem I see is the 7:15 - 5:00 - 5:15 in the crate...way way too long for a dog to be crated with no potty break......you need to find some way for the puppy to get outside and out of the crate for a while around noon.....10 hours straight is just not a reasonable time to crate a dog! I pick up food bowls 15 min. after feeding, if they don't eat it, they don't get it till next feeding, and i pick up water bowls at least 1 hour prior to bedtime. so they have time to get the water out of their system and potty immediately before going to bed.
We did this with our lab and had to leave him in a crate all day while we were at work 4 days out of the week.
Right now he is 10 months old and we still don't give him the run of the house, but just a small room and we don't give him food or water in the morning (or leave it with him in the room) nor does he eat if we did leave it out...he's weird and only eats during the night anyways.
We make sure he poops and pees before we leave in the morning.
When we used to put him in the crate and if we gave him food and water in the morning we would always come home to a mess. As a puppy they just can't hold it that long even if they wanted to. Their bladders aren't just big enough. Even though we were told that they won't go where they sleep, that's not true, if they have to go, they have to go.
Also we were told 1 cup of water equals 2 pees (estimate obviously) and so that's how we usually judged how much he would have to pee and we would know what to look for. Every dog is different and you have to find out how your dog is becuase they develop their own schedule/personality.
crate training is the best way to go,
 Nobody understands...any help please?
 50 points for someone willing to do this!!!!!!!!!!?
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It is possible, to crate train...?